Post by amyb � Wed Sep 04, pm. Post by Rupert � Wed Sep 04, pm. Post by roger � Wed Sep 04, pm. Post by neil � Wed Sep 04, pm. Post by Pat � Wed Sep 04, pm. Post by simonmw � Thu Sep 05, am. Post by Rupert � Thu Sep 05, am. Post by chris � Thu Sep 05, am. Post by Ed � Thu Sep 05, am. Post by amyb � Thu Sep 05, am. Post by roger � Thu Sep 05, am. Privacy Terms. Quick links. Tony Allen and the TOY dinghy an area to discuss dinghy developments.
I sent an email to the MD at Allen fittings who passed it on to Tony Allen, who sent me a delightful email explaining how it all came about. Hi Amy Not good at dates. My story is :- I started sailing when I and two friends built a Jack Holt designed Hornet in and in 54 started making fittings Holt Allen.
I built a second Hornet in and married my crew. When we were expecting I changed to sailing a Jack Holt Solo. I was having lunch with Jack and he told me about the IYRU competition for a single hander potentially to replace the Finn as Olympic single hander. As we did often in those times we drew ideas on the back of the menu and batted back and forth with ideas, I wanted Jack to design lighter and more exciting whereas Jack felt what was wanted was a pretty and easy to sail conventional boat.
Jack built a really pretty boat called Cavalier. I launched and sailed it at Burnham and though I loved it I thought it not what was wanted for the competition. So when we next met I sketched out what I thought, a bit of a cross between crewing on a Hornet the fun of being on a seat out board and a very light stretched solo. Jack did another boat bigger than Cavalier with a sliding seat called Corinthian, but it was heavy. Jack persuaded me to have a go at building my Toy to see what the race committee thought.
The competition was run by The Yachting World as a paper presentation. I cannot remember the other. The original Toy was built very light by the Mirror dinghy method pioneered by Jack, I built a second prototype with a very small change of lines to reduce the wave drag also of plywood.
On Christmas day I woke with terrible toothache and phone John Partridge a dentist friend who sailed Hornet at Brightlingsea. When he let me go I found that I had agreed that he would be sole builder in the UK and that he would pay me a Royalty per boat.
I do not now know how many were built, I know some were built in Russia and some in Hamburg. We did several competitive trails observed by IYRU committees and did not disgrace ourselves. I wish you much fun sailing Toy, there was a TOY owners association but I was too busy to look after my boat and it's furtherance.
Wishes Tony Allen. Last edited by amyb on Wed Sep 04, pm, edited 1 time in total. What number did you have Rupert? I think next I want to see if I can find any articles in 'The yachting World' about the competition which may show all the boats put forward for trials. Anyone have any copies from the 60's or is a trip to a library archive in order!!
Amy we'll have to discuss handicaps at the next event, on the database it says 93, Noble Marine's database says in new money, and I raced on 91 at hunts!! It may be worth talking to David Henshall he has lots of contacts in the dinghy world and may be able to help your research.
I think Neil had one at one time as well. I can see you doing for the TOY what Rupert and co have done for the minisail. It was the boat that caused me to discover the CVRDA all those years ago, think I did 2 races before the seat exploded and required surgery.
Looking out these pics has reminded me what colour my hair should be. Somewhere I have a bag of spare wooden bits - the transom had a habit of exploding so I collected spare ones If I find any bits happy to move them on to a new ToY owner.
I'm Chris Barlow's Daughter for those that haven't met me yet! There are two photos. Since the cavalier is described as a Una rig, non-spinny, single hander and the colour photo shows a large boat with a spinnaker up and a crew of three this is clearly not the same Cavalier. In fact it is labelled a Royal Cavalier. A little job for you Pat. I'd love a go in one sometime!! Micheal has one stashed away somewhere but we have only seen pics.
I would be interested in one if we had somewhere to sail it and I really enjoyed sailing Stuarts at Roadford that time and I soon got used to walking round the back of the sail.
Looks like you have the planking bug Amy. There was talk of a plankers event once with the aim of trying to get the few planking Hornets out alongside the ICs and the minisails and Toys. May be we should look at that again.
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