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That seems quite fair, but what is the limit? And why aren't you offering the details to us? Forgive me for asking you for a bit more detail. My main concern is that your new model allows one to get access to older articles, but if one goes back to the same older article one time or 10 times, does that count as 1 or 10?
There shouldn't be a limit or penalty if one is actively involved in multiple discussions with others on SA that might go on for months like I have with tdot and ricj. Not a good idea. I also think the price is just too high. I would prefer to hide everything behind a paywall no free plan but make it quite affordable, e. I'm sure almost every user would pay this.
Lower the price but get much more subscribers which in the end could bring in more money! My opinion is that news is not an article and should not count as a free article. This is insane, just copy the head lines of SA news and 10 sites pop up where you can read this news for 'free'. This is crazy. No doubt, SA has overpriced the ability to read articles.
I was blocked from reading on Monday, everyday since I look at the headlines of articles and realize that almost all that interest me are just opinion articles on stocks I already own. SA did lead me to a subscription service from HDO and that has been excellent.
Think about this SA and it's most popular authors. Now the your readership will be only paid subscribers and a very limited free articles will be read, this will result in less exposure to individual authors and less subscribers to those authors services. I owned a small business and choose sales velocity over higher prices, SA do the same. Not worth any more to read how T management is horrible or how T is the best stock for SA reconsider the cost. I've got the same problem.
I opened an article once, then had to take care of something. I went to the "articles read" section of the first page and tried to get the article back. I was greeted with the message to subscribe to premium that I couldn't get by. As a result, I couldn't re-read the original article that I had opened.
The other question is when was there a limit placed on the number of "free" articles that could be read. This is highly irritating. After reading a few of the "management" responses to this very topic, I'm afraid I'm done with SA.
In fact, I'll just reject the e-mail messages that constantly come to my mailbox. Just signed up for a subscription by the end of last year DDD which is excellent btw and now this paywall that comes with crazy pricing. I guess that's it for SA. Feeling betrayed. Well, I'm sorry to say that I'm finished with SA like many others.
I have been here for years to just browse around. I tried using your portfolio which I cannot use because it does not support Canadian listed stocks. How do you expect me to pay for this sercive when there are much better options elsewhere?
This is a crazy policy for those who have consistently followed this site. Let's see how long SA is able to survive with this new pay structure, I'm thinking not long. Good riddance from a loyal follower. Been a very loyal member since I guess I have to go find another site. Bye SA its been a good 8 years. Thats a hard stop and bye. Good luck you will need it Thanks for the suggestions guys regarding a few other sites to try I'm definitely going to miss the authors that I have been following.
After that the higher levels of membership will allow the pro members to have their exclusive access. If basic accounts became paying accounts I suspect the additional revenue would be substantial. Please post any site finds to receive quotes and news without the hassle. I left yahoo finance because they made changes that were annoying and unhelpful. Your broker's site. That is all I go to that site for. I hit the limit? It;'s Jan 7th and I've been block since the 4th.
This blocking is very tiresome. SA isn't the only source of info. I can read 5 articles a month? That's it? Why allow any articles? Just go to pay only. That would at least save YOU time from defending this stupid policy. I read 5 articles in a morning. Your service is unusable after the 1st of every month. WHY would anytime come back on the 2nd? You guys need to fire your marketing people. But not from me. Bad move. More then articles I came here to read insightful comments.
I doubt if it will be as Will have to find the next SA. SA has reinvented itself into an "also ran" resource within my investment research universe. May visit once or twice a month at most in future Wow that's trash. At least there is still the portfolio functionality.
If you make that premium there would pretty much be no reason to go on this site anymore. My father once have me a piece of advice that I think you will find applies to your recent changes. Terrible idea. You lost a long time reader. First you hide "editors picks" articles under a paywall now you won't even allow followers to read their authors. I hope the writers desert your site. Such a disservice to both readers and writers. Shame on you! Let's give the authors a boost into action by unfollowing them.
I did that to the or so that I have been following and received some interesting comments from them regarding SA's new policy. Why continue following authors that you are no longer allowed to read?
Combined, readers and authors can generate considerable feedback to SA's new policy. Same feedback here. Was a fan for a long time.
Not any more. Maybe you should charge for the Basic service too! I hope the admins are reading the comments. I enjoyed the articles until those all went behind a paywall but kept coming back for the earnings call transcripts and presentations. I can get those for free elsewhere. Propose something more reasonable for the non-power user. Your business, you can charge what you want, but I find limited access unacceptable.
I do not need your premium services, my broker provides almost of that to me now. I am willing to consider paying for article access, but if you continue with these new policies, you are losing these eyeballs for good. Most of us have access to the wires and professional analysis via our trading platforms and subscription to established sources. The educated comments of your users were your capital, and this decision will squander that capital by turning many of them away.
Furthermore, the few Authors I found valuable and follow will feel the sting and lose access to potential subscribers. I suspect you will have to reconsider, if not the paywall model itself, your pricing strategy. I guess I will have to remove this app if you are going to force me to pay. Interesting that SA has taken this route. Also a great call on FLGT. I was skeptical at first but after one month I am glad I signed up for their service.
Please share the alternatives you found? Let us all go there. I just unfollowed all the authors I was following. I suggest everyone does the same so writers realise that this is a dying platform and go elsewhere. I will look into alternative platforms and GTFO of this place. Paywall will lead to less people visiting and commenting.
That will lead to less atricles and authors publishing. Less content will lead to even less people visiting SA and spiral of death will continue. Than they will try to reverse that by making it free again but it will be too late. Some other platforms will already take their place.
I'm going to disagree with the others on some points and agree on others. I think that the article quality is very high and detailed. I love your contributors and even if i disagree with them, i like to hear the differing inputs. It seems like all your writers spend a lot of time on each article and I'm happy with the service you provide. That said, i think the price is too high for a service that used to be free.
I think 5 dollars a month is reasonable. Beyond that i think ads should be employed for additional revenue. Also i feel that a greater amount of free articles should be offered. I think generosity in these respects, would go a long way.
How disapointing.. I'll keep my account and maybe wait 6 months or so, if you keep this shit up I'll go ahead and delete it. I have paid the inscription for Premium 3 days agoand I still cannot open any link First time I have heard about a "free article limit exceeded". The Premium subscription is way overpriced.
BAd marketing decision!!! I agree I cannot read any of them. I also tried articles by authors who I know for sure do not charge Please change this. I will never pay But, I am sure you want my readership. Completely flipping the switch is not the answer.
Dan, it's over. It never was Bloomberg, and not worth a fraction of the price you are charging. Plus, the lack of transparency scores on the UX, adding insult to injury. SA has been killed, and very efficiently if I may say. It appears that the bloody knife is in your incompetant hands. See you! I'm gone! Why would I pay for poor spelling, grammar and context. I never put much trust or confidence in the submissions, but once in a while I would find a good one Nothing worth paying for here.
I am a retired broker, and I am quite capable of doing my own research. Seeking Alpha was really just a few minutes of entertainment every morning, and is easily replaced. My main interest in the site is the comment sections, which probably isn't enough to make me join. I would like to point out there is a lot of pushback here to SA from many users. I think an important point to keep in mind is many of us have never given SA a dime. Maybe they sold our eyeballs, but it is possible that isn't profitable enough for them.
As a businessman I can surely respect their decision, because I know it is pretty hard to turn a profit off the people that don't want to pay for services. Free users me included shouldn't really be complaining to SA about them trying to grow more of a revenue stream. At the end of the day I will be grateful for the free services I do receive from SA.
Most all the articles here are just peoples' opinions - and opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. Most of the authors are rookies and wannabees, who get paid to write. For serious news see bloomberg. Do yourself a favor and give up on reading the opinions, and just follow the price charts.
This site has taught me so much in my quest to take my money from bad money managers and invest myself. Unfortunately, the price is way too much for me. I have deleted my account and will seek other sources to continue my journey. I would consider a low cost basic subscription. Spotify gives me nearly all music for a fraction of that.
Streaming tv is cheaper. And the entire family uses that. I get the need to monetize but the tiers are forbidding and will drive me away.
You need to fix things.. No reference to author nor date and time article was written. You cant be serious that all your revenue is coming from subscriptions. There are so many bad option articles that you have to read dozens to sort through the junk.
You quickly go through the article limit. You are losing views based upon your move. As you lose views, you will lose contributors the good ones at least. Good Luck. It was bad enough when they changed the layout. Now you can't even read the free articles. Do the authors know that their free stuff is now being blocked from being read. It's going to make it really hard for folks like Brad Thomas, Rida Morwa, Hoya Capital, Colorado Wealth Management to get new paid subscribers if we can't even see their free articles.
I'll move back to Yahoo Finance. There are other options. This site has gotten so screwed up it's beyond belief. Not being able to read the "free" articles that I used to be able to read really has irritated me and as a result, I'm going elsewhere. Monthly fee is just too much considering that I get Morningstar Premium for free. Bye Bye Felicia! I have to voice me concurrence with Sfergy1's comments. I tried to find some documentation of the "free article limit" but don't seem to find it in either the terms and use or privacy policies, other than the generic blip under Misc.
If you do have some specific article limit, I can't seem to find. If someone does know the specifics of how many articles are allowed, per day, week, month, year??? This is the reply I sent to the SA founder that messaged me privately: David, Your contributors are amateurs who you pay peanuts to.
I know, as I contributed for several years. The same article I submitted to you guys I was getting paid 4x for by other parties. It's pathetic. As for advertising, you'd easily be able to sustain your business if your advertisement team wasn't full of failures. For instance, the webpage I'm replying to you from, there is not one single advertisement. This is common across any pages on your site.
It's utter failure to monetize your webpage. Now, your advertisement business will get even worse, as your readership is going to fall of a cliff. If you guys want some help on how to run your business profitably, please let me know and I can send you my resume. I have an MBA and 13 years in the market. I'm serious.
A whole lot of people will leave the site as a result, so there will b less comments to the contributors who will also be disillusioned as a result and some will leave. Terrible decision and even worse implementation. Still haven't found out what the limit is or exactly what window it's applied over. This decision turns the site into pay only, as the free version is now virtually worthless.
For years I have enjoyed reading commentary on Seeking Alpha. Apparently your policy has changed as I am being asked to subscribe to SA Premium. All recent news articles have been cut off indicating I have reached a so called limit and requesting a payment if I want to continue to receive the full article.
I am not in a position to make these payments thus you can take me off the list for receiving these submissions. The community here are no fools, but this move certainly is. Existing readers will leave in droves. By limiting the number of articles to such a pathetically low unpublicized number, how can you possibly expect to draw new readers to replace the ones you'll surely loose?
You can't, and you won't In case you didn't realize, the web is a big place where folks with opinions will surely reveal the "move of morons"; your reputation will soon be in ruins. The result?
What value their was to SA, which is the readers comments, or what I call "the wisdom of the crowd" will vanish, as will SA's value along with it's viability as a source of info or income generation.
Seeking Alpha Admins, I can't begin to express my extreme disappointment with you. No only were we not informed about the recent paywall changes, but your own press release doesn't even say how many free articles we can read each month or how much a subscription costs.
It's not worth anywhere near that price. It's too bad. There are a few good writers on SA and I've subscribed to their services. Now, new authors will never even have the chance to reach me because I can't read their free articles.
So those authors will lose out, plus, you'll lose the advertising revenue that you receive from the ads that you placed in the articles. No articles, no ad revenue, no chance to discover new authors Way to go SA.
What a way to kill a business. How much would I pay? You didn't even bother asking me to take a survey, but here's what I think For anything more than that, your App gets deleted.
Like all above, I am leaving also. I am going to greatly miss Regarded Solutions - my genial financial father figure. He has inspired me and given me confidence with his clear and honest appraisals of the market. RS - please stay well and keep getting the most out of life. I was a premium subscriber a few years back and found the "in depth" articles lacking.
Really nothing more than the free section except a lot more charts and diagrams I terminated my subscription after a few months. I enjoy reading the articles but find the comment section often times, is much more informative and certainly more entertaining. There are a few good authors but to be honest, most of them are throwing stuff on the wall to see what sticks. There may be a lead to follow, but I would certainly would not buy a stock based on these authors.
I have subscribed to 2 of the authors and they are outstanding. I tried a third but did not fit my needs, but liked his stuff. Rennlist is the main Porsche forum and to my knowledge the only car forum that actually charges a membership fee. Now to be fair, free users can still use the site but paid members get an exclusive badge on their avatar. I confess I was one of them. Anyway, of course only a Porsche forum could get away with something like that.
I've been getting articles on my portfolio for years and now you want to limit what I get to try to get me to sign up for Premium. I don't need Premium. I just need the articles. I am deeply disappointed in your decision to limit users of your website and will source out another company if you don't decide to change this policy.
It is greedy and makes your company look really bad. I'm joining the chorus in saying good-bye. Like many others, I never put too much faith in the articles themselves, but did enjoy reading the comments. I have removed SA from my Favorites Bar and am moving on. Its a shame, no warning whatsoever and reached limit immediately without knowing the limit of free articles.
Bye, bye. I really dislike the new free article limit that has been put in place. I cannot understand this decision, why not add more ads instead.
Dumb decision, no warning. Paying the fee is not an option so looks to me that I cannot use SeekingAlpha anymore. Not worth the money for me, I'm leaving. And where do i see when my limit is reached or at least how much free articles i can read in a month or in a week for free??
This changement happen so fast, dear SA that you even forget to give us detail. My limit is reached? Ok which limit, and when can i read news for free again??? For the rest i agree with most of what is written here Not for free articles!! Or at least pay the writers who post the articles for free, that would be an argument.
In future , please give your customers time to absorb such a drastic change in your policy. At this point, I want to close my account and move to other sites. I am not able to find it. Will appreciate the quick response? I just read all the comments above and there's no need to pile on.
If SA hasn't gotten the message from all those frustrated users already, then nothing we can say that will matter. The most valuable asset the site owners have is the Seeking Alpha community and they are heading for the exits. I'm holding out hope that we will receive an announcement that this ill advised change is being reversed. Have to strongly disagree, everyone who is not satisfied with the recent changes should definetly speak his mind so that the numbers of unhappy people who still care enough to give there honest opinion about this site will rise as much as possible.
In this topic we might don't have thousands of comments yet but most people just leave a website when they are unhappy and those few hundred comments come from heart and come from dedicated users who truly make this website what it is. I have been a free subscriber for over 20 years.
Guess I am done with Seeking Alpha. Why the change? In my 50 years of business and investing experience, one of my rules comes to mind to describe your new policy.
I think it's not a coincidence that they did it now when exchanges are at all-time highs. But I want to see the accuracy and expertise of their contributors and their ratings when markets get choppy again.
Vote with your feet and walk out of this insanity. And I hope some contributors put pressure on SA! This is a lose-lose situation.
If seekingalpha puts it behind an expensive paywall, whoever do not pay for premium could not be able to comment - then seekingalpha is inflicting injuries on itself. The quality and thoroughness of their writing and editorial staff is second to none. And for me the icing on the cake are the daily newsletters that are available at no additional cost. I have found many valuable investment ideas in both the weekly magazine and the daily roundup newsletter.
That pricing is outrageous - this was a moderately interesting place to visit for investing ideas but not worth anything like what you are asking. I will look elsewhere. You've lost me. Site is unusable now. Email me when you regain your senses. How many news can i read for free per month or per week or per year. Seeking Alpha, you are installing a paywall without having alternative cheaper plans or details about the paywall what do you mean with limit????
Poor, very poor. Yahoo Finance or if you want all news about secific stocks try Finwiz!! It's for free but with alot of advertisment The last few days I could not figure out why the paywall came up when ever I tried to read a free article.
Was there a notice posted? I checked to be certain the articles were not for the premium service. One of the authors I follow often has his articles tagged for the premium service. I have thought I might upgrade in the near future, but this greatly reduces the comment stream behind the articles which I also greatly value. I must say how greatly disappointed I am that Seeking Alpha would make this change. This materially reduces the value of the service.
I hope management reconsiders what I view as a poor decision. I know from personal experience that the only way to get a response from SA staff is to make very aggressive and hostile personal comments, insult their integrity, etc. They don't care that anyone is "unhappy", and they surely don't want our suggestions. This is the first time I've posted anywhere on SA in over three years.
I got so tired with the amateurish moderation of the comment threads, it was no longer worth my time to participate. Now I can't read free articles either? I'm guessing that Eli Hoffmann was the lone voice opposing this ridiculous change to SA's business model. Now that he's gone, you can proceed down the death spiral.
Another idea: make it a pay-per-view of e. Marketplace subscribers getting a rebate depending on how much they spend. There are couple of other free sites that can provide the similar information. Thinking of Yahoo finance. They have a lot of views, good stock news and quote, good forums. I see where the future is heading now. I just think that this is unfortunate, i liked to just come here to see other opinion on stock that i'm interested in or maybe have new stock to look at.
But paying that amount of money for average investor advice I guess they do what they want, if you think this is worth it be my guess. There's no way i think this is worth it, if you want to learn there's a lot of other places just as good if not better. Just my opinion. Yahoo finance will do the work.
Thinking of a Barron's subscription or Investing. Cheaper than SA and great analysis insights of real professionals and not amateurish contributors that just throw around biased opinions. I have signed up 14 day free trial and paid for a subscription, but I am still denied access.
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