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Thomas Turner. Log in. JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I'm clearly overthinking wading boot studs. Thread starter City Rat Start date May 13, City Rat Well-known member. Ok I am close to pulling the trigger on wading boots, I need to try on both the Orvis Pros and the Simms G3 Guide boots , make a decision and close the chapter on this.
As I was going over their features of each boot for the zillionth time I noticed that each company charges separate for the studs. There seem to be a couple of types: 1- Variations on a hex head screw, e.
Is one type better for certain conditions over another type? Does one type last longer than Fishing Boots Simms Track the others? I feel like this is really easy and that I'm just overthinking but then again I'm so new at this it is hard to tell if I'm overthinking a thing or if there is a choice here that makes a difference. Any assist would be appreciated. Last edited: May 13, Messages Reaction score 6 Location Marana ,Hellazonia. I have the grip studs , wont use anything else. Motorcycle tire ice racing studs.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk. Messages 1, Reaction score 94 Location Marthasville Mo. Messages 1, Reaction score Location Vermont. I have a cheap pair of boots from Dick's, with the rubber sole not felt. I tried the Kold-Kutters and that helped somewhat. But then I found at Patagonia a sale on the aluminum bars, so I bought two sets of those so I have a bunch of spares. I attached them using the included threaded inserts just screwed into the rubber.
As far as traction, it worked great, probably as good as my felt boots. However, on one boot the two inserts the way the boots are I could only use two screws for each plate for one of the plates pulled out and I lost that plate; on the other boot, one of the inserts of the analogous plate pulled out.
So I bought some T-nuts and I am going to screw them on with the T-nuts inside the boot, under the insole and some Loctite for good measure. So it sounds like as long as you have space in the lug pattern of your boot, these are all interchangeable, correct? I'll second or third? I've found my Korkers Alumatrax bars to grip much better than their cleat soles.
Before these I spent a lot of time skating around on rocks with rubber, felt, and spikes, and now my footing is much more solid.
Messages 3, Reaction score 1, Location PA. I still am in search of the perfect option. Researching them all will make your head spin. Tough to find unbiased info I've tried and use a wide variety. I personally am not a fan of the screw in style studs. They invariably fall out.
I used them for a couple of years on several earlier pairs of removable sole Korker boots and gave up. The threads would strip or you'd have to use Loctite on them I tried sheet metal screws and all of these fell out in 1 trip. I've not used the Kold Cutter, Orvis or Simms studs options as a result of the above experience.
I'd also think that ones with an exposed center retaining screw, if they wear out Drill them out? Right or wrong I'm just not a fan I use the buckle on style cleats from Korker - Rocktrax. The carbide studs are riveted on, haven't worn hardly at all and haven't lost one in 5 years. These are heavy You can simply take them off and just use a boot with a sticky rubber sole if you're in a drift boat or walking into a store to get a soda.
I do have a pair of the Patagonia and Korker boots with the AlumnaBar soles I like the concept I've not used either boots much The Patagonia ones are a bear to walk in. Stiff is an understatement.
Good luck on your search. Let us know what you decide on. Ard Administrator. If you buy the Simms boot I can tell you what I use in mine. I have tried many studs, even taken them from manufacturers and tested them with different brands on each boot to see which gripped better or came loose first. Those are what I can quickly remember, currently I have the Simms Alumbite cleats on a pair of G3 boots going into their 3rd season. I have not lost a one of them and all are still tight.
It comes down to getting them applied to the boot carefully and correctly without over tightening which strips out the boot sole. When they are correctly and carefully installed can't stress that enough they work as well as one can hope for. They do not protrude to the extent in which they tear surfaces up or become loose due to constant contact with the ground.
On most surfaces I wade through they improve my contact with everything underfoot and I don't slip slide around. For me they have been the longest lasting least damaging studs I have used. I did find that with some brands that protruded way beyond the rubber soles of my boots that they could create a slip and fall on dry slab rock near shore. I believe that occurred because the rubber was not in contact with the inclined smooth surface of the stone at all, I was supported by that series of little metal points In the end, wading among wet slippery stone and bedrock submerged in water that is often moving at fair rates of velocity is an inherently tricky operation in which many people end up taking a fall.
Whether or not the dunking can be blamed specifically on the type or brand of studs they use is an open question. I do not wait until I am thigh deep in raging currents to deploy a wading staff, you learn to assess risks before you ever enter the flow and go prepared.
The combination of cleats for some added grip and staff for balance are a winning combo for me As a final remark I'll say that every close call I've had while wading here and other places over the past decades has been caused by the velocity of current and not by my choice of studs.
Once the current is at a level which is actually pushing your feet downstream or eroding the bottom substrate away from your feet where you stand you have passed the point of relying on studs for help. At that point a successful crossing comes down to shear will and you'll look for a better place to cross coming back I hope. Messages Reaction score 3 Location Missouri.
Messages 2, Reaction score Location Hudsonville, Michigan. Whichever boot you decide on you may want to go up 2 shoe sizes for a non-binding fit and to allow room for extra socks. When I wet wade I use a neoprene wet wading sock with a heavy wool sock over the top of it to fill out the boot. Foot comfort goes a long way to the enjoyment of day a on the water. Last edited: May 14, Foot comfort goes a long way to the enjoyment of day on the water.
Messages Reaction score 2 Location Montana. They work great for me. Thanks to all. The Orvis boot is a nice boot, very nice and I think that it will be easier to break in. That said the reason it will be easier to break in is because it's lighter than the G3. The thing that kept bugging me was what did they take out to make it lighter but keep an almost identical feature set?
I decided, based on their track record on durability on the G3s. I also grabbed up a couple of "pucks" of the Hardbite Star cleats.
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